can i try again later?

[Anonymous]

hi,

i know my application got rejected but can i try again later?
Im more willing to make concessions now.

Dave/NuclearChiken

[Anonymous]

:disgusted:

[Anonymous]

i guess i may not be well liked by a lot of chikens in here, but all im asking is that for OLD times sake and the fact that i help started this clan that u give me another chance. im willing to wait a few months to re-apply.

Im not asking u guys to like me, and i dont intend to win a popularity contest by groveling etc, all im asking is that because of the fact that i helped start this clan in ages past that you give me one more chance for old times sake.

Sort of like giving George Washington a chance to become an American citizen again. Ok i know its not a perfect analogy.

But im still a vital part of the chiken history wether u guys like it or not, and all im asking is that because of that fact that u gimmie just another chance. like i said ill reapply in a few months if u want me to... but im not going to bend my mind to think like u and loose my individuality just to make u guys happy. Im and individual with my own opinions and values, so please respect my right to own those values even if you dont like them.

If every chiken has to think alike and behave the same way, then where is the freedom of expression etc?

NuclearChiken/Dave

[DirtPoorChiken]

Dave, no offense, but you sound pathetic. Move on man!

[Anonymous]

also please remember that i was never kiked out, i left volutarilly.

Dont take me back because you like/dis-like me or like/dislike my values, but take me back because of my part in creating the clan in ages past.

Give me back my tag because it is my right as a founding father of this clan to return at least once after i leave.

I will not change my values but what i can promise is that ill make a better effort to get along with the next generation of poultry.


Dave/NuclearChiken

[Dragonic_Chiken]

your off to a bad start again nuclear its not that no one likes you its the way your applying for the clan again saying its your privilage because you helped create still not really asking but telling us you think we should let you in. As i said its not that no one likes you but the way your applying

[BlaSpHemOusChiken]

your off to a bad start again nuclear its not that no one likes you

Wrong, I dont like the Guy! His posts ooz trouble, pointless repetition and empty value&please give me a chance plees.
Yuk. I know application has been refused already but let me add my big NO to it 2.

[Anonymous]

Dave, are you interested in a little bit of constructive feedback?

If you plan to re apply, a little more humility will serve you extremely well. Some people have mentioned the fact that you assumed too much and offered little in the way of apology for past actions.

I am not here to judge you. I think some Chikens have been agrieved that you offered no apology. I think some have jumped on a bandwagon who never knew you in the slightest.

I remember you from the early days of HWC. I would suggest you play on HW2 or HWC without a Chiken name for now. I think it would do you no degree of harm to let other Chikens know who you are. Play with them in games and try to show them you are a changed guy.

I will not lie to you. This will be a difficult process for you ever to get accepted again...if ever.

Personally, I will have no trouble in teaming up with you.

Best of luck, Dave, and see you online.

P.S its important to note that this is my opinion only and that I carry no say around here :D I do not speak for the whole group!!!!

[LoneStarChiken]

ar·ro·gance
Function: noun
a feeling or an impression of superiority manifested in an overbearing manner or presumptuous claims

Synonyms disdain, disdainfulness, haughtiness, hauteur, loftiness, morgue, superbity, superciliousness
Antonyms humility

[Anonymous]

What Angel said is right. If you had simply come back slowly, playing around chikens, especially the ones who didn't know you from the past, tagless, then come here asking with a degree of humility, this might have gone your way.

At this point, after questioning the council's authority in the other thread, I'm not sure that you will ever gain our trust. You may try and who knows, but it will never happen while wearing Chiken on your name without our permission.

[Anonymous]

Over the top, sorry.

[PherdnutChiken]

Insult to injury... not necessary. Dave... Whatcha gotta find, you're not going to find here for now.

[AddictChiken]

I don't have a problem with you personaly, but as a Chiken you became a force for division rather than a member of a family.

If you want a game on Gamespy.. look me up; I would be happy to partner with you or combat you in good fun, but I don't feel you have been a good fit for this clan since the time we moved from a monarchy to parlimentary rule.

[Anonymous]

hi i have reviewed the responses...

Ok i understand now where most of the hostility is comming from.

You all said that i was presumptuous and assumed too much about my rights to come back in...

but remember, i was merely expressing my point of view and how i felt about things, i was by no means pushing my opinion down your throats, i merely allowed u guys to read my mind about the matter.

I didnt say "because such and such YOU MUST TAKE ME BACK"

i said "I feel such and such and thats why i believe u should take me back"

I wanted you guys to consider and take into acount the fact that i helped put the clan together so that u guys would think

"gee whizz... is there any merit to what his saying? maybe we should factor that fact in before considering our votes..."

once again, i had NO ill will or intention to make u all feel inferior. Regarding how i compare InfinityChiken to the Council, just because i like orange juice more than apple juice mean that i hate apple juice. What im saying is, yes youre right i respect Infinity's Authority and acceptance more than the council youre right. But since when did i say that the council is inferior? And also i said that the council was set up originaly as a temporary government, well... is it true? it is true isnt it? so why take offense to it? Im not making fun of the council... im merely stating a fact!

And about the apology, ok , if i have sinned against anyone in God's eyes then i apolagize. Dysed, that comment about Canadian kilts i didnt mean it, i said what i said just to piss u off because i got soo angry about the lack of justice in the clan that i lashed out and sinned my self.

And if anyone has sinned against me i also forgive those person wether or not they choose to also forgive me.

Let me take u guys down memory lane for a while...

the only time i pissed off u guys was

1) when RamboChiken was being bullied by many other Chikens and NO ONE stood up for him.

2) when i was a moderator censored Frstkor fits of rage after us Chiken beat FL in a game (we are fine now as friends btw). A few chiken didnt want to loose good standing with frstkor and were not happy with me.

2 incidents... thats it!

Now with the first one...

Rambo was a bit quick with his tongue and screwed up a little bit... but guess what happened after? Some of the then juniur Chikens wouldnt let it go and continualy taunted him.

I HATE BULLIES! Yes he did something wrong, but other Chikens wouldnt put the subject to rest and kept hitting on him. And I REFUSED TO BE A FENCE SITTER and stepped in. My reputation was screwed up in the process but i stood my ground and would do it again if the situation repeated... i did what i believed was right by defending Rambo dispite popular opinion against him.

I did what few people would do... i got out of the comfort zone and into the unpopular zone. I did what was right. I got soo angry at those who persisted in bullying that i did wrong to dysed with my canadian kilt comment.

Now with number 2.

Ok... we won a game Chikens vs FL... Frstkor wanted us all to know that ... oh heck... i cant remember now... something about how some of the FL werent FL players or something and one of them was drunk while he was playing or somthing... i reallly cant remember, but i felt that he was being way too fanatical about it and i decided to do my job as a moderator to censor some of his stuff... some chikens thought that i was being to censortive if u know what i mean...

but heck... how the hell is that diferent from all the lock threads i see every time i post something. I believe the moderator has been locking the threads because of Chiken reaction to my post... not because of my post it self! So how is it my fault that these threads are being locked because there is a lack of dicipline in what Chikens type in response to what i say?

Shouldnt the Chikens being fowl mouth and hurtful be rebuked by fellow Chikens? But no, instead the thread is lock to save the Chikens from embarassment.

So what i want to say is this... yes i do apolagize if i have sinned, but if i did it was because i got frustrated trying to do the right thing... and ended up doing the right thing the WRONG WAY.

So precisely what do you Chikens want me to apolagize for?? Seriously!

I figured we both screwed up, me and the Chikens, but i figured you guys would have the insight to see that... and just take me back in and mutualy forgive each other... the situation is NOT ONE SIDED! I wasnt totally wrong in the situations that led me leaving the clan. There were things that i was right about! And i got soo passionate about doing the right thing i lost my grib and screwed up too.

So how have i changed?

Well, im a born again Christian now, im an adopted Child of God, the same one who created you guys. And Jesus Christ is my Lord and Saviour...

Do i still have faults? Sure i do... but the Holy Spirit is changing me slowly.

How can i benefit u guys? Well, for starters God can use me to save your souls and bring you guys into the Kingdom of God and have eternal life. The Holy Spirit who created you and the universe lives in me now, and He lives in other born again Christians too such as Benny Hinn etc, im not exclusive to this.

There is a lot of darkness in this clan, very few God fearing people in this clan. I want you guys to allow me to be a light in the darkness. Bring u guys out of bondage.

So why would God choose me to be his son and servant? Heck... im not worthy nor am i great i have so many weakneses and done so much wrong!... but because i fear God, God gave me GRACE (blessed the underserving) and make me his child even tho i dont deserve to be his child. Thats why Jesus died on the cross so that those who dont deserve eternal life can get it.

There is so much resentment and unforgiveness toward me in this clan... guys ... such unforgiveness and resentment will send you to hell... im not saying that to be boastful...or use "religion" to scare u guys into submission... but God commands us to forgive each other, ive done my part to forgive u thru the power of the Holy Spirit (no i couldnt do it without Holy Spirit)... but if you dont forgive others (me no exception) God wont forgive you either.

God will treat you the same way you treat other people. The same way you judge others, is the exact same way God will judge you. So if you judge me unfairly, you will get the same kind of judgement.

There are some nice people in this clan such as Angel, Nemesis and to some extent Clucker.

Doomaz i feel probably doesnt like me any more,.. but if youre listening Doomaz, i love you... the same way God loves you.

I forgive u, and hope u will do the same for me. Because remember, Jesus died on the cross for our sins, so we must be like him and forgive each other the same way Jesus forgave us.

I hope one day we can talk on the phone again and u can teach me more german.

Ok getting back to the people i think are good...

Nemesis, Angel, Clucker ...

Ok, i like u guys i do... so dont take waht im abbout to say personally... God has given me the gift of insight into people's minds and hearts... im not making this stuff up. He said when i was 16 thru a prophet that i would have a gift of insight into people's minds and how they think.

The three of you are good natured, but what you lack is this... and i dont blame u for this... courage.

The three of you have a reasonably good heart, but you are reluctant to take much personal risk... you will do just enough to remain politically correct and stay in a nice warm comfort zone or neutral zone about manny matters while others might get zapped u might say to your self... well.. he deserved that anyway but im not going to risk my neck, im too comfy here.

You might voice an opinion that is soft but you will never rebuke a fellow Chiken if he did something outright wrong because u wanna be friends with everyone... Ok... you have free will.. thats your choice... why did i bring this up?

Because one day God is going to create a situation in which you will have to choose a side... u cant remain on the neutral zone forever, there is going to be prosecution soon against Christians, and soon you will be forced to choose between Satan and God. My advice for u guys is... DO NOT TAKE the seal of the devil 666!

It is in your nature to stay on the sidelines... you guys are fence sitters... but one day you will be forced to choose... fence sitters cannot enter the kingdom of God.

If you guys dont believe me then fine... im a lunatic and just laugh it off... but please dont take offence... im telling u guys this for your own good. But like i said... PLEASE DONT TAKE OFFENSE, im telling u guys this because i love u.

Ok back to the subject about my recruitment...

im pleading with u guys, please take me back in ... so that i can be your light in your darkness... let me preach the good news to fellow players and regain my fun and pleasure of playing with old friends i had grown up with and love.

As for me wearing the tag, please forgive me if i dont, because InifinityChiken said i could and thus i feel that me wearing the tag is therefore legitamate. forcing me to not wear it is like ripping out something i have grown to cherish and squashing my litlte pride i have left in the gaming community.

Im a Child of God now, if you reject me you reject the Father in Heaven also. Im not saying that to be boastful, its a matter of fact, its scriptural. I want u guys to consider what i say carefully with the fear of the Lord in your hearts.

Why the heck would God choose this Dave/NuclearChiken as a means to reach us? the Answer is this:

1Corinthians 1:26

26Brothers, think of what you were when you were called. Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were influential; not many were of noble birth.27But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. 28He chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things -- and the things that are not -- to nullify the things that are,

God chosed me to reach u because i am despised... im what the world would consider garbage... he chose me so that those who welcome me would be demonstrating humility... It takes a lot to be humility to accept what i say as truth as a voice from God.

But it is VERY easy to throw spite at me and dismiss what i say is garbage... VERY EASY... and probably tempting too... but as i said before, if u reject me u reject God. Because my concience is clear.

Some of u including Dysed, might think... sheash... i know this guy... he used to do this and that etc...

Think about Moses... he sinned too... he killed some one and became a fugitive... a prime minister fell to a nobody... yet God chose to use him... because as a nobody he could be used by God. He screwed up like me... and God used him as God is using me.

If u are not sure about what i say and that its true... then pray to the Lord about it. Because my concience is clear.

So i ask again... please reconsider taking me back in... so i can be a positive influence in your life... so i can share the joy of wearing a Chiken tag and feel more legitamate about it with friends i love who are still in this clan. Let me be a light in your darkness... let me save your souls. True i could do all that without being a Chiken... but there would be a heck of a lot less incentive to do so.

And yes i still believe i have a right to come back as a seniur member of this clan... but thats just an opinion... you dont have to take offense at it... just factor it in to your equation and measure weather its a legitimate reason or not instead of equating it to pride and throwing it out completely.


Dave/NuclearChiken

[Anonymous]

You're missing the point. We don't have senior members anymore. Pherdnut, one of our newest recruits, has the same rights as Guarrand. There are no divisions between the games we play. We don't have chapters at all. Sure, some Chikens have the respect of the group which comes from a long term over very dedicated service to his or her fellow gamers. That's as far as it goes.

I really don't want to get into a theological debate with you about this. However, I would so like to point out to you that coming back as a senior member is vastly different than coming back. The meek shall inherit the earth.

The woman at the well did not become the queen of heaven because she accepted the spirit of God. That's the fallacy in the argument that you are presenting to me. Sure, there is such a thing as acceptance, and I am all for that. However, unless you can prove yourself to not be a dividing force for the members of CC, which first of all means simply hanging out with chikens in the game or on the open parts of the forum, without the assumptuous tag, that you would so meekly, in time, possibly gain the trust of the members of the clan and in so doing give them a good reason to forgive you.

That's my message to you. We will not accept a wolf in sheep's clothing, so we must see you as you are. At first glance we don't know your intentions or the way you would be toward the different members of CC, but if you were to just be a person instead of a "senior member" then you might learn a little something about who we are while you try to accomplish your goal.

You are still going about this the wrong way. Remember, we are all about having fun. I did not have a whole lot of fun reading your long reply.

BAWK

[Anonymous]

True i could do all that without being a Chiken... but there would be a heck of a lot less incentive to do so.

If your are a child of God as you so claim, then why would it matter? By your own words you should try with everything you are to save everyone here.

[PherdnutChiken]

I would no sooner fear god than I would my own father. If I had time to dissect your lengthy post, I would. Fact of the matter is you go borderline cult tactics in some of your reasoning. I'm not sure if you're serious or if you're just testing the waters for fun. I hope, for your sake, you're just testing the waters.

If that's not the case, read the rest of the bible and explain to me why you aren't just as easily a Muslim, a Jew, a Hindu, a Neopagan, a Wiccan, a Crystalhead, a Scientologist, or what the hell ever suits your ego, circumstance, or inheritance.

Simple fact of the matter is, your first post showed that you would try anything and everything but honesty to get in. You threw sorry attempts at politics, guilt, name-dropping, expedience, etc. etc.. ad nauseum at us and I wasn't impressed. Now you're attempting religion? If you just wanted some old friends to play with you !@#$ed that all to hell with your posts and with each one I am more dead set against you reentering the flock in spite of the fact that I'm new and would normally butt out given that circumstance.

I took my sweet time joining the chikens as I generally don't like getting tied down to any sort of group; I dislike politics; I dislike easily bruised egos; and I especially dislike being accountable to people I may never truly know. If there is one thing I'm fairly certain of, however, I like these peeps and even the most pathetic transparent (and consequently harmless) attempts at manipulating them piss me off big time.

You had people speaking up for you at the start and I took them seriously. Now they don't speak up for you and I take that seriously too. If you think you've achieved some level of spiritual enlightenment, you need to pray to God that He gives you a smack upside the spiritual head because never have I seen someone so passionately display their ignorance of self.

[Anonymous]

Innocent...

This is what im talking about... you again MIS UNDERSTAND WHAT I SAY...

I didnt say i want to come back as a seniur Chiken...

I ment... i want you guys to accept me back just as a normal Chiken because of the fact that i was a seniur Chiken member in the past... and in recognition of my service in ages past as a seniur member i was asking u all to take me back as a normal Chiken...

Sorry if i didnt make that clear but thats what i mean...

May i suggest not assuming the worst of my intention before u reply in your future post.

And i would advise against using God's word unless you have a relationship with Jesus, just an advise.

And please dont judge me to be a wolf in sheep's clothing... remember you are allowed to judge but God will judge you exactly the way you judge others. So it's for your own good.

Guys guys... please dont think im using "religion" as a tool. I am being used by God. Not using God.

Once again, in reply to this post... dont assume the worst of my intentions... it's responses like the one u just gave that is giving embarassment to this clan... and thats why threads are being locked up... so far i do not believe i have said anything intentionaly hurtful or offensive.


NuclearChiken/David

[Anonymous]

True i could do all that without being a Chiken... but there would be a heck of a lot less incentive to do so.

If your are a child of God as you so claim, then why would it matter? By your own words you should try with everything you are to save everyone here.

Dude, im not wanting to join the Chikens primarily to save souls, i desire to rejoin the coup for my own gaming leisure, but as a byproduct of my time with you i was hoping to do the Lords work too to benefit u guys.

Hey, im not saying im the only Christian God is using to preach to u... im just one of them.

But who knows? maybe im the only one in reach of u. In which case you should be greatful if you accept what i have to say.


DAve

[Anonymous]

I would no sooner fear god than I would my own father. If I had time to dissect your lengthy post, I would. Fact of the matter is you go borderline cult tactics in some of your reasoning. I'm not sure if you're serious or if you're just testing the waters for fun. I hope, for your sake, you're just testing the waters.

If that's not the case, read the rest of the bible and explain to me why you aren't just as easily a Muslim, a Jew, a Hindu, a Neopagan, a Wiccan, a Crystalhead, a Scientologist, or what the hell ever suits your ego, circumstance, or inheritance.

Simple fact of the matter is, your first post showed that you would try anything and everything but honesty to get in. You threw sorry attempts at politics, guilt, name-dropping, expedience, etc. etc.. ad nauseum at us and I wasn't impressed. Now you're attempting religion? If you just wanted some old friends to play with you !@#$ed that all to hell with your posts and with each one I am more dead set against you reentering the flock in spite of the fact that I'm new and would normally butt out given that circumstance.

I took my sweet time joining the chikens as I generally don't like getting tied down to any sort of group; I dislike politics; I dislike easily bruised egos; and I especially dislike being accountable to people I may never truly know. If there is one thing I'm fairly certain of, however, I like these peeps and even the most pathetic transparent (and consequently harmless) attempts at manipulating them piss me off big time.

You had people speaking up for you at the start and I took them seriously. Now they don't speak up for you and I take that seriously too. If you think you've achieved some level of spiritual enlightenment, you need to pray to God that He gives you a smack upside the spiritual head because never have I seen someone so passionately display their ignorance of self.

Look at the corruption that is in your heart! The choice of words, the harshness of your language etc...

once again, this is why threads are being locked! It's not because of me! ITs your responses... you allowing Satan to use you as a tool. Dont take offense to what i just said. We all at some point allow the devil to take control of some part of our lives...

But my gosh... just think of what you just said... your words are so full of corruption, hate, resentment...

And if im correct, most of you who believe that your words are inopropriate are just going to sit on the fence and do nothing! If i was still in the clan i would speak up and gently rebuke you.

There is so much darkness in this clan!

You guys need God in your lives! Let me in so i can be a light in your darkness!!

Youre right that i was desperate to come back in the clan yes, because i have friends in my online diary who are in this clan and i wish so earnestly to be able to share online gaming experience with them feeling as tho im in a team with them.

Thos people are mega, nemesis, Infinity and Kyle.

But i also wanted to try and change the clan from within.... GUYS... SIT BACK AND LOOK AT YOUR OWN RESPONSES!

It's not me thats the problem this time!

THis is wrong! If you take me back in i will try and change this clan from withing... give it a spiritual cleansing.

If you guys dont take me seriously then... oh well... theres nothing much i can do... ill probably give my duck dominion clan a 2nd attempt or try reapplying again in 6 months.

But guys... please... take a good look at what you have written against me... so much MISUNDERSTANDINGS and jumping to conclusion... all so negative and hostile.. and FILTHY!


Am i right?


Comawn guys... dont be proud... humble your selves before the Lord and forgive me whatever sin i have done to you.

If i was never a member of this clan ill understand why you might not take me in...

but right now i see that the ONLY reason holding u guys from taking me back is...

RESENTMENT
UNFORGIVENESS
PRIDE
MISUNDERSTANDINGS

Basicly ALL THE WRONG REASONS!

Hey look. Im a Christian and thats is who i am... dont think im using religion... u wanted a reason why i should come back in... in my heart spreading the gospel is one of them.


Dave/NuclearChiken

[Ummon]

Not my intention to stick my nose into chiken affairs, but this was the most amusing thread ever since I started visiting chiken forums. Involuntary humour, that's it.

Nuclear, a suggestion, this is basic rhetorics:

1) Never judge, accuse or insult those you plead to.

2) Never judge, accuse or insult those who, out of compassion, partially support your plead.

The basis of succesful speech is "captatio benevolentiae". Beseech their benevolence, not the opposite.

Of course, this suggestion comes to late. Maybe it will be useful somewhere else.

[LoogieChiken]

I think I'm gonna be...... <insert being sick smiley which I can't find and if anyone can please let me know and I will put it here - damn that destroyed the flow of this post>

[Anonymous]

An interesting few posts. I did read them all.


Dave, my backing for you was, and still is, based on the concept of forgiveness and family.

Each of us here are free to express our opinions. Not everyone will agree with mine, and I will not necessarily agree with theirs.

A lot of people are still gonna say that you lack humility. I certainly have noticed a calmness in your posts that were missing back in your ezboard posting days, however, you are still lacking humility.

Your apology to Dysed was probably the single best thing that you wrote. Maybe that should have been the main thing you focused on.

If you are serious and you genuinely want in - actions speak louder than words. You need to focus on creating a non Chiken account and posting here. You need to start participating in General Discussion forums and giving helpful advice and support. You need to be playing with other Chikens online and showing them your changes.

It is purely my opinion that, if you dont do the above things, you are highly unlikely to advance your cause.

Bear in mind that, you may still do all these things, and be unsucessful.

I genuinely do wish you the best of luck in your continuing applications. If you are serious you will need to work smarter and not harder.

Angel

[Anonymous]

Wow, after all this time Angel and I have finally found something to agree on.

Patience is a virtue grasshoppa!

[CluckerChiken]

@Dave :crazy:

Sorry m8, can't stuick up for ya if you keep making fun of us, the chikens and yourself.

[BlaSpHemOusChiken]

I fail to see the point in all the religious material in your post Nuclear. I fail to see the need of analyzing several Chiken member' behaviour/views/opinions.

I fail to see what the above two are doing in a thread meant for recruitment into Chiken. Isn't it time to move on about now? Your application has been refused. If you need counseling/soothing/ places to voice your ideas/views/opinions this is not the place. Post in a different secion of this forum or contact the proper authorities.

Yes, there is an insult hidden in that last sentence.

You are downright scary. :crazy:

[Anonymous]

Dave,

First of all, I am a Christian. However, I would think that you would at least be intelligent enough to realize that attacking people on the basis of religious ideals is NOT the way to convert them to your religion. A much more subtle approach of "Hey, look at this nifty book and what it says" would be MUCH more likely to do the trick.

I'm not reading a need to convert people to your faith in your posts. I am reading a wanton need to be "holier than thou" through your Christianity. Because you believe in something does not make you a good person. Remember the priests who stepped down from their appointments after having been caught molesting children.

Let's just drop the nonsense. You keep coming back for only one reason. You are trying to argue your way into the clan. This argumentative nature is the very reason that you were not missed in the first place. I don't care what religion you have found in the meantime, that argumentative nature is still VERY present in every one of your posts.

Until such a time that you can wake up and smell the bullshit that you are trying to pass off as gospel, I don't see any reason to pay attention to anything you have said. You can say how good of a Christian you are and all that, but I sense no love in your posts which are libelling chikens and attacking the authority of the council.

Where is the love? II Corinthians Chapter 13. Read that, replacing God with love. If you truly are a Christian then you will realize that ACCEPTANCE is a measure of love. However, accepting that you are nothing but an argumentative ass does not mean that I would ever support being in a clan with you. As a Christian I have the choice of staying as far away from you as possible. Frankly, I'm starting to wonder if it's actually Christianity that you are trying to blabber, because your conclusions are absolute horseshit.

Beyond that, what you believe does not make your word gospel. I know a lot of Christians who lie their asses off to try and gain acceptance of their peers. We're all guilty of our sins, but the gospel is not. The gospel is perfect because it is a reflection of the Holy Spirit, which is part of the Trinity. In case you aren't familiar with that, that is the Father, Son and Holy Ghost, 3 but 1.

I hope that you seek counselling. It's obvious to me that you don't realize the severity of your mental disturbances.

[Anonymous]

I simply do not see the value of personal insults in this thread.

I dont know Dave that well. I was recruited at the time he was just leaving, though I did know him from HW games.

I am somewhat shocked at the bitter content of some of the posters here who have never interacted with Dave on any sort of level. Are you jumping on the bandwagon because it feels good to do so?

You are, of course, entitled to your own opinions. I personally cannot fathom what you are basing these opinions on! had you known him prior to his departure and were commenting on what you see now.... I would find that to be more than acceptable.

Perhaps I am missing my high horse. It must be wonderful to sit as the paragon of humanity and cast judgement on others. I am proud to be part of a group who have never messed up in real life or internet life. I dunno how I would cope being amongst those who could not live to the upper echelons of greatness that some of us here possess.

Try and consider the feelings of others before you launch into your obviously correct analysis of others. You never know when you may need to be forgiven.

Angel

[Anonymous]

My opinions are based purely on the posts Dave has made.

[Fanatic]

BAWK!

I am with Angel on this one.

Please knock it off guys/gals, as not wanting him in for good reasons is one thing. Burning him to the ground for it (even if slightly provoked) is not the way to react.

Dave, I suggest you take the message like this:

Application denied, take the constructive reasons out and build upon that in any other endeavour of your choice. Forget the rest, as tensions are obviously high and nothing is to be gained by persuing this route furter.

Next time, please don't forget that entering a clan is NOT a negotiation. Making friends in real life is not a negotiation either, and this is no different. And sorry to say, live with the experience that 'for old times sake' does not always works in ones favour.

Fanatic

[DruidChiken]

This thread is getting nowhere.

The crux of the matter is as Fanatic just said..
Application denied, take the constructive reasons out and build upon that in any other endeavour of your choice

Once again thread locked.


Druid