Fun vs. Happiness

[Anonymous]

Since I'm on a serious streak, I thought I'd share a little something that I think explains the whole difference between fun and happiness. I wrote this in 1999 with a very broken heart that I earned by having too much fun, contrary to the way it reads.

Unending

It cannot be written of nor expressed in art,
The eloquence of love as it comes from the heart.
When two hearts collide in a twinkling of bliss,
Like the me of a hug and the you of a kiss.

The soft, tender moments that are born in a touch
Are like petals of roses for lovers to clutch;
And the rain and the wind and the sweet morning dew
Shall make them live eternal and blossom anew.

The mountains shall stand as a reminder of truth,
How love does not lanquish like the full lips of youth.
Love is a magic that is echoed unbroken,
A bright, gleaming rain with a rainbow as token.

A ship-wrecked heart can bring many waves to the eyes.
Love is cultivated in a forest of cries;
And stronger does time restore the heart like the moon,
Like tears fill the ocean or the sleepy lagoon.

Our song is unending and never shall it wane,
The sweet notes resounding in each kiss of the rain;
And the roof-top music as it dances on tin
Shall bring comfort to those who are sleeping within.

One ring, unbroken, love encircles the earth.
It is a part of us from the moment of birth.
It dissolves all heartaches, all pangs that are pending;
For love is our song and our song is unending.

[BasT]

wow bro thats sweet, all my stuff is now full of "not giving a shit" theme in it, so well i dont really give a shit

[Anonymous]

LOL Fun is still fun. I want all I can get.

[BasT]

ever heard of the song A.D.I.D.A.S its by a band called korn
its stands for "All Day I Dream About Sex"
My life summed up in 1 sentence

[Anonymous]

SOMEONE GO FOR HELP! BasT is now completely off topic and is rambling on about SEX! Not that that is a bad thing...but, ummm, well...oh never mind.

[BasT]

i'm 17 and your avatar is shaking your thingys at me! WTF DO YOU EXPECT!!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

You are right. I am sorry. I will change it immediately. #-o

[MoocherChiken]

You are right. I am sorry. I will change it immediately. #-o

And the anti-perversion faction of CC takes ahold of this thread. :(

[BasT]

*mumbles* stupid bast and his stupid big mouth
Oh nevermind i'll get over it
*gives huntress the evil eye*
Change it and die.... i will come to mechy and i will see you burn :computer:
BTW you do know i'm joke w/ all of this, cos i dont really think about it all the time there are a few minutes inthe morning when i'm to tired to think of anything

[Anonymous]

Gotcha :clubbed:

[BasT]

Voted Miss Fowl Sexuality 2003 WOOHOOOO!
Linkage!!!!!!
i know could we have a emoticon w/ "this tread is nothing without links?" would of made my life alot easier

[Anonymous]

I voted her that BasT, it's on this forum.

I think the new forum needs broken in. :)

[Anonymous]

Buddy Listers...dont even think it. [-X

[BasT]

.....well that ok i guess but no going over my head next time Innocent ok?
otherwise your fired!
ok now that we got that sorted back 2 spamming
:spam:

[Anonymous]

LMLAO read the other thread buddy lister

[MoocherChiken]

what other thread?

:band:

[Anonymous]

Huntress' Thread

[MoocherChiken]

She's got her own thread? DAMNIT.

[BasT]

i want 2 threads!!!!

[Ahab|FC]

I wrote this in 1999 with a very broken heart that I earned by having too much fun, contrary to the way it reads.


That poem was written by Linda Marie Van Tassell Copyright © 2000


Its real nice that you want to flirt with all your eSluts on this forum, but don't plagiarize the work of others.

[Anonymous]

Now you're way off on that. That poem was published in 1999.

I don't know who that is, but they no doubt got that poem off his old website he had. He had a huge website of poetry which he started in about 97 or 98 and stopped on last year when he was divorced and lost everything.

If someone else has that poem online then they need to be sued VERY FAWKING BADLY!!!!

[Pherdnut]

eSluts? Chiken or no, that offends. I do decleh sah, that just might warrant a good ol' fashioned duel.

[Ahab|FC]

A woman by the name of Linda Marie Van Tassell had a Copyright put on that poem in 2000, I suggest you work things out with her.


Btw, I'd like to see this "website".

Either Mrs. Van Tassell is in the bussiness of plagiarism, or our dear chiken friend is a classic Milly Vanilly.

[Pherdnut]

And you're not responding to my challenge because...?



Ahab's secret fear -> :smackbottom:

[Anonymous]

Well, I just was awaked in the middle of the night by the phone ringing.

Ahab, Innocent is telling the truth about the time frame of that poem and how it was published. I don't have the original files from my website. The problem with all this is that I have had a divorce between then and now and an ex who got the computer. Ugh.

Anyway, first, let me establish my web address.

Click Here (http://www.king.isgenius.com)

King's Palace is the home of King of Flirts, which has been me since 1996. I actually called the homepage Silver & Black. Following my divorce I had the web address rerouted to a new spot where I was trying to rebuild the website but never could really get into it, so I gave it up in January for good, at which time the parts of it I had rebuilt were being hosted on a very common FTP site that is now being used to host lots of images and chiken signatures, along with the signatures of people from other clans.

That established, let's fingerprint that poem. To do this, we're going to have to go through the creative process and writing style.

Every poet has a particular hallmark that makes most of their works easily recognizable. Usually that's conveyed in either the rythm of the poem or other quirks which poets don't change, because they are subconscious.

The rythm of that poem is a set of 2. There are 2 lines in each rhyme and 2 thoughts in each line. There are 2 rhymes per verse.

Here's another verse out of a poem I wrote called "Chaser of Dreams"....

Into the sky, clouds beckon me...
And onward they stretch, over the sea.
Sink or swim, I want the dream;
Live or die, let the pain teem.

Another set of 2? Wow, sounds familiar.

Another telltale sign of who writes a poem is the thing the poem does. In "Unending" the poem dances between the world of imagery and emotion and continues to bounce back and forth. "Chaser of Dreams" follows that exact pattern, as does the following work by me, which is a set of 2 from 2000.

For Toni's Friend

I saw it written on your face,
That sorrow came, your smile displaced. <--imagery and emotion
With tiny voices this house calls...
To bring you back to us all.

And once more into the night dear friend; <--NIGHTTIME
To their hearts we'll attend
While stars shine uncommonly bright.
Give me this miracle tonight.

To my knees and I beg for you,
And this life, it's not true...
For I am drifting, without you.
I'm alone, without you.

Pictures, letters, memories surround;
In the hall, little feet pound.
Malicious courtesy God's will to take
You from them, for Heaven's sake?

Then in night, when dreams come, <---it's NIGHT again
A vision came, I know not where from, <---DREAM
And next to me, you flashed a smile
I had not seen in quite a while.

Morning came and I awoke.
In the hall, to me you spoke!
But when I ran to the sound
Only angels could be found.

All my days, now will I know...
While on Earth, angels grow,
And that you will never be far,
And that no further than you are,

You'll see the gift you gave to me
Growing up in times of glee.
For into the night you took me, <--NIGHT
But when I think of you, it's them I see.

If you compare this poem back through with Unending and the verse from Chaser of Dreams, you'll see striking similarities in the:

Time
Purpose
Imagry
Rythm

Okay, that covered, there's one more peculiarity with my poetry. I write poems in two's or threes. It's rare that I only write one version of a poem. Where Unending was one of my best works of all time, if not THE best, there's another poem that I wrote earlier the same night.

What you must understand is the way I think when writing poems. I take a single line that pops into my head and fill the rest of the poem around it. For Unending it was a rainy night and I was listening to our song over and over on repeat, which happened to be a Sarah McLachlan song, which isn't even really my type. Here's the short poem from the page preceding that work:

Our Song

A swallow nests in the heart of a man,
The softest melodies it doth play
Of a magic fountain and Peter Pan.
Softly all sweet lovers do sway. <-Sweet, remember this

In deep, dark notes the songbird refrains; <--Refrains?
Charming music with silence does blend.
To be in beauty avoid all pains,
Before we reach disastrous end.

But here does the swallow still remain,
With only echo of the rain.
So in sunshine let's begin again <---we've got the time of day
And let not silence our song stain.

I'm going to break down some more things in my next post.

[Ahab|FC]

So you're saying Mrs. Linda Marie Van Tassell went to your website, copied your poem, and put a copyright on it?

[Anonymous]

My next poem brings back some of the footprint of all of the preceding poems but was written before any of them, in 1998.

Why Love?

If Love is the brightest light,
Why do stars come out at night?
If passion is sin,
What am I living in?

Bedtime stories I unfold
Of greed, lust, envy and gold.
Lustful pleasures are my tale,
While in the end, the story is stale.

Emotion, devotion, words with use;
Words flow easy after abuse.
Greed, lust, envy, real life truth,
All still here after words by Ruth.

Ignorance, hate without cause,
Life is not without its flaws.
A coin tells the tale,
Without Hell, Heaven would fail.

Meanings are never as intense
As they are while on that fence.
Naive hearts unhappiness take...
Waiting for love they forsake.

Corinthians took two books
To make words to desccribe looks;
And passion and love go hand in hand,
For what is a beach without the sand?

More than a word,
A feeling is absurd.
Passion and love will tell
That life is full of Heaven and Hell.

For if Love is the brightest light,
Why do stars shine only at night?

We have the time, rythm, imagry switching to emotion. We have my same topic once more. The set of poems from 1998 were about spewing words. A passage from "Ode to my Sugar Angel" reads:

And through my love I'll live on
When all my words are done.

Another set of poems I wrote was about having inner demons. These poems were from 1997, when I was being very bad and actually playing hearts for attention and I wrote lots of poetry with a mixture of anger.

A passage from "I Fret"

It's not real, there is no justice here...
Only me, never you, clock strikes me down.
Live in anger, struck by hate, face wearing fear,
Fear of you, of not having you, of being a clown.

A passage from "Windows"

Back to you, back to hell.
God I can't stand the smell
Of burning meadows.
Can you see through my windows?

A passage from "Just Walk Away"

Take my life, burn it down.
Take my joy, make me frown.
Take everything, it's all I've got.
Turn your back, take the lot.

A passage from "Never Be Free"

Destroy tomorrow starting today
With your petty jealousy
You shone on me
And set yourself free.

A passage from "Oh Lamppost"

Oh lamppost, I need you now.
I've fallen without a doubt.
Help me up, only you know how
To get my inner monster out.

A passage from "Darkside of the Moon"

But the sun I do not see
So in darkness let me be
As the world turns, so did you from me
You left me where I am to be

All my poems reflect my current views of love, whether it can or cannot end. They are a continuing exploration of my personal emotions and I could be here all night showing you the poems that I wrote for individuals that carry the themes of Unending.

However, since each one of these is a little piece of me frozen in time, and most of them carry a lot of powerful emotions, I'm going to stop where I have.

Though I can't show you the site those poems were all posted on, I can guarantee you one thing. I could never and would never use the emotions of another person which have been conveyed through a poem to pretend that I have felt or am capable of feeling that same way. Thank you, but I'll write my own, and do what I think is a very good job of it.

Ahab, I do understand where you think you are coming from. However, there is more than one site of poetry out there, and though mine isn't there today, it was there yesterday, and this isn't the first time I've seen instances of poems on the different sites, just the first time I've seen one of my own thrown back in my face, to which I really have no defense other than my personal style of writing, which is all over that poem.

[Anonymous]

Can I go back to bed now?

Oh, I wrote a poem for GracefulChiken, so you've now called her an eSlut.

GAN

[Pherdnut]

Hmm... still no response for me. Thought the whole point of smack talking was to start fights ingame. You must just be yet another legitmate ass who abuses the anonymity that the internet provides.

[shutupandshave]

I dont understand -
innocent - did you write that poem, and if so - why does someone else have it copyrighted?

Scowler, is it possible that someone read it, and then passed it off as their own work?

I wrote a song recently....

God save our gracious Queen,
long live our noble Queen,
God save the Queen!
Send her victorious,
happy and glorious,
long to reign over us,
God save the Queen!

Thy choicest gifts in store
on her be pleased to pour,
long may she reign:
may she defend our laws,
and ever give us cause
to sing with heart and voice
God save the Queen!

Nor on this land alone,
but be God's mercies known
from shore to shore:
Lord, make the nations see
that men should brothers be,
and form one family
the wide world o'er.

:D


reminds me of the time remux nicked the entire of the FL website put it up with changed words and copyrighted it.

[shutupandshave]

incidently scowler, I am not convinced you nicked that poem, but if you did, the fact you have absolutely no proof it's yours, is gunna fux you over.

I know a little about intellectual property law.

[Anonymous]

I am an eSlut and proud of it. Piss off, Ahab|FC. Go play lawyer somewhere else will ya?

[Anonymous]

Aye, Scowler said for me to shut up about it. He realizes it's gone. He did write the dang thing, I even know what color the notebook is that he wrote it in.

I think she's copying that work because his poetry site got a lot of hits and was on all the major search engines. That's definitely his work though because I remember reading it while I was married because my ex-husband and I had it as sort of like our poem, and we were divorced starting in January of 2000.

[bonnet|chiken]

Oh serriously suas, be a little more adult. I also dare you to check the copyright office and 10 to 1 no such piece of work is registred.

[Anonymous]

I bet it is bonnet, registered in 2002.

He submitted two poems in contests for money and that was one of them only shortened by 1 verse so it would meet the maximum lines requirement for the contest.

They sent him stuff wanting him to buy the book it was published in and he didn't have the $$$ for it.

[Pherdnut]

Geez... I love how these guys are surprised at the fact that someone would actually rip off someone else's work off the internet and be bold enough to copywrite it. At the magazine I used to write for, they had some idiot rip off their Tomb Raider Guide verbatim and put it in a strategy guide for... uh.. Brady or Prima, I forget which. Last I heard our legal department was on it. It's a strategy guide. All you have to do is paraphrase the thing for chrissakes. It's not like there is any real intellectual property in the thing other than the exact choice of words. The guy probably didn't make much more than 5-6k off the guide and most likely ended up getting blacklisted from the entire industry for life. Never underestimate the sheer idiocy of all the 'tards out there.

[Anonymous]

Yeah but Pherd I think what they are saying is that they think Scowler is the one ripping off work. They didn't know he had his website too, and first so they see it on another website and think that it's the work of that person.

I understand the base of the discussion. It's just really tough, in this case, to prove whose property it is.

[Pherdnut]

Yep. Understood that Innocent. Thanks though. :) Just think it's lame they'd rather believe the worst rather than give the benefit of the doubt, especially when you backed him up. What I'm saying is:

If your argument is that she wouldn't be stupid enough to rip off his work AND copywrite it, think again. The internet has made people very stupid about that sort of thing. People get to thinking that anything they cut and paste is theirs.

[Pherdnut]

Apologies SUAS, you were giving the bennie of the doubt. "They" retracted.

[Ahab|FC]

ROFLMFAO

[BasT]

:ban:

[Pherdnut]

Not sure to respond to that, so here's some happy snowmen!

:happy: :happy: :happy: :happy: :happy: :happy: :happy: :happy:

[BasT]

:ban:

[DruidChiken]

Ban?

No we will leave that to the FC kiddies to arbitrarily ban people its what they are good at :P


BawKK!!



Druid

[Anonymous]

DruidChiken is wise in the ways of things. Very wise. Im thinking that innocence has been established. We can send the jury home and close this thread now.

[BasT]

:ban:

[shutupandshave]

lol - who have we banned from our boards - except lights, and not without many warnings?

How many threads have we asked for bans of other people in?

lol

uh...
/me takes bait.

[Pherdnut]

I dunno, but I've read Ahab on your own boards and I don't think your own people like him very much.

[shutupandshave]

at least he's not a suck up pher ;)

[Pherdnut]

Oh.. but you're so cool and clever. It hurts that you would call me a suckup!

[Pherdnut]

And worldy, did I mention worldly? :fag:

[shutupandshave]

if you were capable of remembering the post you made 5 minutes previously, you could answer that question yourself...

To save you the trouble, you neither mentioned worldy, OR worldly.

please re-read my post about stupid comments and apply that to yourself.

I wasn't trying to HURT you, just poking fun at your suckyuppyness(y).

hehe

[Pherdnut]

Typos too. Nothin' gets by you man.

[Minx]

Whoever wrote it, its beautiful.
Scowler, if it was you, very nice.
and as for being called a slut? Well fuck you. :finger:

[BasT]

BURN! IN HELL!!!!!!!!!!
Minx i think we should hunt down this "flamer" and give him a stick beating!!!
<--- puts on face paints!

[BasT]

Damned Makeup kit...

[Anonymous]

Aye Minx, dunno what I was on that night, but I remember reading it the next day and just staring at it a few hours thinking wow.

By the way, the puntuation and grammar in it are both wrong. When I puntuate poems I really don't know what the hell I'm doing so I just guess at it.

[Papa Theif]

BasT, please don't get Minx on the warpath. Both Heaven and Hell quiver when she decides she is going kick ass and takes names. Bad part is she doesn't even bother with the names most of the time.

[Minx]

:stupid: ( sorry honey, I love this emoticon.. its too funny..)

Now don't go giving them the wrong idea about me, Theif... :phear: :gunfirej:
I'm as angelic and mild mannered as a new born babe.. O:)

I wouldn't hurt a fly.. even if they were a low life asshole who likes to make blanketed insults. Of course, I may just drop a little hint :bricks: that its not socially acceptable to go around calling women sluts just because they have an issue with something someone else posted..

[Anonymous]

:stupid: Yeah. What she said.

[BasT]

In the words of a child.... "HaHa, your all stupid"
GO MINX STICK BEATINGS ALL ROUND! :poked:

[Minx]

Bast, you are too funny.. you are just ITCHING for a fight, aint ya?

[BasT]

YEAH! FIGHT!
btw any1 know what day it is.... lack of schoolin has made me forget

i checked my post and its a friday... man i am sad... friday night in

[Minx]

bast.... dude... time to sober up...

[linmarvan]

It's a shame that I stumbled across this website just recently. In all fairness, if an individual wants to try and steal my work as his own and then accuse me of doing exactly that, you would think he would contact me directly or at least have the strength of courage to do so using his real name.

The proper name for the poem is "Our Song Unending." It was written by me on March 9, 1999, has been posted in numerous forums (AOL, Starlite Cafe, Amorotica, Post Poems, etc.) Most importantly, it is copyrighted and posted on my personal website at:

http://www.angelfire.com/hi2/eroticdoll/index.html

For a person to claim that he/she was in the middle of a break-up and wrote "Our Song Unending" is laughable. The song exemplifies the glory of love, not the heartache of a broken heart.

I just felt compelled to respond to this defamation of my character publicly. As one can see from visiting my website, I have a wealth of poetry, volumes in fact, and have no need to steal anyone else's work. Not to sound egotistical or anything; but quite frankly, I wish I could find a poet that wrote with as much fervor as I do, with a leaning towards the classics, with a love for rhyme and meter. Sadly, contemporary poets have a tendancy to write exactly the opposite.

If the original poster, who made such a baseless claim, would care to contact me directly regarding this matter, I would be more than happy to have my attorney converse with yours; and we can take care of this matter legally, with all of the ramifications which that implies.

God bless!

Linda Marie Van Tassell

[DruidChiken]

The person who started this thread and also the one who seems to have stolen your poem is no longer a member of this community.

Your claim to copyright is noted.

[SmuttyChiken]

LOL ... typical American ... sue you sue you sue you ...

How can this be a defamation of your character????

You should come on here to say you wrote it and I would have been sympathetic to your cause ... but to crap on about lawyers and settlement is just a wee, tiny, little bit over the top ...

Now if we had to pay the original poster to view the poem, that you state is yours, you may have a claim to breach of copyright ... but once again it isn't for sale and you stating that you wrote it should have been enough ...

so pack your bags .... grab your lawyer by the hand ... and piss off ...


you should stick to writing poetry ...

[BillyTheChiken]

What an interesting way to have a four year old thread necro'd.

[Tarn]

... typical American ... sue you sue you sue you ...

That there's libel my friend.

I believe you and your prison colony country owe us restitiution.
And no, we wont except another Crocodile Dundee movie this time.

;D

[BasT]

wow 17... long time ago

[Stolen Chiken]

I love that.. she ends it with "God Bless".. Im pretty damn sure your "god" doesnt want you telling other people youre going to sue the crap out of them for copyright infringement and then "bless" them in his name..
"Yes, you have to sell your house, your car, take on another job, get on your knees to beg for forgiveness publicly from the person you "borrowed from without permission" and then, THEN God can bless you."
Hypocrite.. I would would been less pissed if she had just said, "See you in court!"
oh wait, it gets better.. if she bothered to read the rest of the posts, someone (Ahab, I think) posted 12/23/03 that this chick WAS the copyrighted author and dont plagerize someone else's work on the forums!
anyway, it got all messy then.. so whatever..

[BillyTheChiken]

I'm going to lawyer you! LOLPWNT!

I need a hug.

[SpazChiken]

I need a hug.

...or a 50 caliber machine gun?

[Fearchiken]

Lol this has to be some type of joke. This person obviously knows nothing about law. Plus the fact that this person has the perceived ability to pay lawyers to deal with copy-infringing idiots online and yet have a rather cheap looking web page alludes to the fact that this person is full of BS. I mean defamation? lol, how is this defamation? Someone stealing ur work as his own does not belittle or shed false bad light on your character. Sounds like you are trying to test the elasticity of the word and stretch it more than its meant to be stretched. Typical of any civil cases. I'd expect something a little better from a poet such as yourself.

I mean come on lol, there needs to be damages involved in order for this person to make any money and I see none. This person could probably make more money working at mcdonalds for a couple of hours than paying highly expensive lawyers over one random internet user.

You do yourself a favor and spend some money on a simple law education rather than on lawyers, that is if you aren't just BSing around. There is no money to be made suing every idiot online, and if there was, people would sure be in damn trouble heh.