The quality of your chiks...

[shutupandshave]

[02:13:16] <Fearchiken> i rarely use serios exploits

So he sometimes uses serious exploits?

[02:09:03] <suas|fearfears> fear, you're more interested in finding exploits for your own use perhaps
[02:09:15] <Fearchiken> yes exactly : )
[02:09:20] <suas|fearfears> fag
[02:09:26] <Fearchiken> lol

This is after 3 hours of avoiding a game with me, but finding the time to play 2 games with other people.

________________________________________

I'm surprised you guys need cheats on your side.
This isn't taken out of context btw.

I dont need to remind people that cheating is not acceptable.

[Anonymous]

God hates you...


:ban: :greenjump:

[GuerillaChiken]

[02:13:16] <Fearchiken> i rarely use serios exploits

So he sometimes uses serious exploits?

[02:09:03] <suas|fearfears> fear, you're more interested in finding exploits for your own use perhaps
[02:09:15] <Fearchiken> yes exactly : )
[02:09:20] <suas|fearfears> fag
[02:09:26] <Fearchiken> lol


Not out of context? What happened in those four minutes that aren't there?

And before you go around accusing us of dodging games, lets take a look at our accusations toward Didlix for sneaking out of a game that have yet gone unanswered.

snakechiken wrote:
Didlex how about a game? no im going to have a game as i am with psa as my partner but i can play you in that but it wont count in the war.............smells like bullshit to me!


Though those of us that use Gayspy don't have the luxury of cut and paste, three Chikens witnessed didlix dodging the game.

What happened to a cordial and friendly war?

Guerilla

[shutupandshave]

Guerilla,
1) chiken dodge constantly, and the ONLY FC member that has been asked for a game, by chiken is didlix interestingly.

So what you're saying, is that she was in gamespy with a friend, you asked for a war game, and she said no because she wanted to play with her friend first?

Sounds fair enough.
She even offered you a friendly!

I dont really think that equates to cheating - do you?

I didn't post the entire log, because it had a lot of shit in it.

Hence the time differences.

[02:09:03] <suas|fearfears> fear, you're more interested in finding exploits for your own use perhaps
[02:09:15] <Fearchiken> yes exactly : )
[02:09:20] <suas|fearfears> fag
[02:09:26] <Fearchiken> lol
[02:09:44] <VenFisher[PSA]> jesus
[02:09:49] <VenFisher[PSA]> erm
[02:09:50] <VenFisher[PSA]> im blu
[02:09:52] <VenFisher[PSA]> so go blue
[02:09:57] <VenFisher[PSA]> and i can give you some money and stuff
[02:09:58] <VenFisher[PSA]> oh
[02:10:02] <Fearchiken> ill play you this weekend in the tournament
[02:10:03] <Fearchiken> :)
[02:10:04] <VenFisher[PSA]> and dont be your usual drunk self
[02:10:04] <Fearchiken> 2v2
[02:10:11] <Fearchiken> oh thats right you got knocked out
[02:10:12] <VenFisher[PSA]> cause people will get pissed and make life miserable for you
[02:10:14] <suas|fearfears> uh
[02:10:15] <suas|fearfears> no I didn't
[02:10:16] <suas|fearfears> lol
[02:10:20] <Fearchiken> oh lol
[02:10:22] <Fearchiken> drunk
[02:10:27] <Fearchiken> we get to play suas in a 2v2 saturday
[02:10:35] <Fearchiken> shit im going to pick up my car saturday
[02:10:38] * TehCheat754 is now known as TehCheat754[DoT
[02:10:38] <suas|fearfears> lol
[02:10:53] <Drunk|madden2k4> ok im blue
[02:10:56] <Drunk|madden2k4> wtf do i do now
[02:10:57] <TehCheat754[DoT> TehCheat7[DoTB]
[02:11:05] * TehCheat754[DoT is now known as Tehcheat7[DotB]
[02:11:07] <Tehcheat7[DotB]> bleh
[02:11:12] <Fearchiken> but suas
[02:11:19] <Fearchiken> i dont really feel like playing
[02:11:26] <Fearchiken> the whole day i havent played a real game
[02:11:36] <Fearchiken> jsut been labbing laservettes and xenofighters
[02:12:04] * Tehcheat7[DotB] is now known as Tcheat|French
[02:12:12] <suas|fearfears> fear, I dont like people that use exploits
[02:12:21] * Tcheat|French is now known as Tcheat|Frenchhw
[02:12:25] <suas|fearfears> I especially dont like people that want them to use them against the rest of the community
[02:12:34] * suas|fearfears is now known as suas|sleep
[02:12:35] * Tcheat|Frenchhw is now known as Tcheat|French_h
[02:12:35] <Fearchiken> suas dont worry : )
[02:12:40] <Fearchiken> ill be using them against you
[02:12:42] <Fearchiken> :)
[02:12:43] * Tcheat|French_h is now known as Tcheat|homework
[02:12:49] <Fearchiken> well actually i wont need too : )
[02:13:10] <Fearchiken> but seriously
[02:13:16] <Fearchiken> i rarely use serios exploits
[02:13:26] <Fearchiken> at most i may use xenoceptors which isnt really banned like platforms : )
[02:13:27] <suas|sleep> only in a couple of ladder games, and war games and stuff?
[02:13:42] <VenFisher[PSA]> why would you ever use exploits at all?
[02:14:04] <suas|sleep> some people are just like that star
[02:14:06] <Fearchiken> cause xenoceptors are micro not exploit
[02:14:28] <suas|sleep> fear, if it involves button mashing, it's almost certainly an exploit
[02:14:34] <Drunk|madden2k4> fisher whatr the fuck am i doing
[02:14:49] <Fearchiken> nope
[02:15:22] <suas|sleep> 02:13:16] <Fearchiken> i rarely use serios exploits
[02:15:29] <suas|sleep> which means you SOMETIMES use serious exploits
[02:15:35] <Fearchiken> ive only platformed rush once : P

[Z-Chiken]

Its war, its dirty. Get over it.

The FC beating orgasmatron is allready in advanced design phase, so be scared suas, be very scared :P

[LoogieChiken]

The orgasmatron comes with a free Jane Fonda?

[Snake-Chiken]

Sorry guys I havent been on much HW2 as I played the thing to death over the weekend and I need a break from it right now. Should be back on over the weekend though. Been busy playing X2 and to be fair im starting to give up on HW2 completly due to lack of patch etc. I may get on tonight though for a few quick games.

[LoogieChiken]

Still makes me motion sick :) That and it confuses me :)

Got mecha over at christmas so can see if he can enthuse me, then you can have a n00b to beat up on :P

[AddictChiken]

Platform spamming is an exploit ... it is a ballance issue that needs to be patched out (limited deployment range or some-such) but (as far as I know) "XENOceptors" is just a matter of micro-managing your fighters instead of letting the AI drive them.

I have yet to even see an FC member even on Gamespy.. but then I'm not on that much so that could be my fault.. :P

[shutupandshave]

Addict, I suggest you talk to mecha about whether or not breaking the fighters out of their turning circle would be an exploit, it is my understand it would be, which is what xeno's are.

[CluckerChiken]

Grow up....

BAWK

[shutupandshave]

cheater

BARK

[AddictChiken]

Addict, I suggest you talk to mecha about whether or not breaking the fighters out of their turning circle would be an exploit, it is my understand it would be, which is what xeno's are.

In that case... I have no idea how to do that. I just drive them a lot and re-target them frequently.

[GuerillaChiken]

LOL, what you posted the second time around tells an entirely DIFFERENT story than before. As far as any discussions have gone about Xenoceptors is that it is NOT an exploit, merely incredible micromanaging, no "key mashing" involved.

Pardon me if I refer to you as Octo from now on, as you like to accuse people of cheating without any proof.

As for dodging games, I am sorry that Chikens are dodging, as far as I am concerned they shouldn't be. This is an excellent opportunity to face high caliber foes and get some very good experience in. I have NO room to talk though as I have not even played a game in the war.

BAWK!

Guerilla

[shutupandshave]

Guerilla, evil scouts were just "micromanagement" too, but were still an exploit.

An exploit is finding a glitch in the game engine and using it to perform things you wouldn't usually be able to do.

If you call me octo, will you give me an anal decoder ring?

Guerilla, please read the first post, in which fear admits to sometimes using serious exploits, before telling me not to accuse people of cheating without proof

hehe owned ;)

damn primates.

[Anonymous]

I belive it was Inspector that showed us this.

For you my dearest suas...

http://www.multiplayercheats.net/

[GuerillaChiken]

lol, evil scouts were key mashing, I was around back then so I remember. I used them before I was told it was actually an exploit. Doomah chiken may not remember but I used them in a Ladder game and he called me on it. As far as our discussions are concernig "Xenoceptors" it is not simply key mashing, and this is according to mecha's input.

So as far as Chikens are concerned "Xenoceptors" are NOT exploit, but if Mecha or anybody else with authority on the matter decides that they are we will not use em.

Sounds like to me Fear was just yankin your chain, and you bit hard. "Proof" is a screenie, when we are able, a recording, or any other form of proof that can be obtained. Rantings in the IRC chat room do not constitute proof.

and you already have an anal decoder ring, its called your sphincter!

hehe uber owned
:disgusted: :disgusted: :disgusted:

[BasT]

I'm not gonna get into this, but suas dont come onto are boards and say this crap, ya know fear could of been joking or drunk you never know, 2ndly grow up if your afraid of losing this war just say it out before you spout ehh CRAP! :givemebeer:
oh and maybe a :ban:

[GladiatorChiken]

bawk

the only exploit fear says he has used is plats is that really an exploit?

from what i have heard everyone in HW has at least tried using plats.

[GuerillaChiken]

We as a group have decided that plats used in an offensive manner is an exploit. Jury is still out on the "Xenoceptors" issue as far as I'm concerned.

BAWK!

[Fearchiken]

Man suas lol. Arent you satisfied with the 20 other games i played with you since thursday. You know this game gets boring and thats why i was looking into laservettes and xenoceptors just because im curious and its a change:P. Honestly i didnt feel like playing a true game period. Besides ive only used plats offensively once. Do you really think i would use these super exploits in ladder games eh?

[Fanatic]

BAWK!

A few words: Shutup and Shave!

Fanatic, December 11, 2003 - The year FC wend down!

[DeepFriedChiken]

Wait let me order it real quick.. I only have HW and HW-C..now I gotta go out and find HW2?

**gasp**

Watch me get my butt stomped..

:clubbed:

[shutupandshave]

to make xenocepters work you break the fighters out of their turning circle prematurely
drunk and fear said that fear got it working in their game together.

As this is supposed to be impossible, I would call, whatever he did, to be an exploit.

[Fearchiken]

still not exploits : P

[shutupandshave]

so, if you're doing something that's not meant to be possible in the game engine, that's NOT an exploit/cheat/bug whatever

ah okay.

didn't realise.

[Festus-OMO]

First OctoThorpe,


Now Shut up and Shave,



If this keeps up i'm gonna just be a fond memory around here. :alright:

[shutupandshave]

okay, I'm an idiot
I admit it.


Can someone please explain to me how fooling the game engine into doing something it shouldn't do is not some kind of exploit?

[DruidChiken]

And no one in FC has ever used an exploit?

[cateye]

/me kicks DruidChiken all over the place

NO. FC don't use exploits, thats below our level.

And Bast, why should we be afraid of loosing the war, huh? We are owning Chikens 31-24 atm, Chikens arent even a serious threat lol.

As far as it comes to fear:

[02:37:12] [punkz|out] are you telling people about these fear?
[02:37:20] [punkz|out] so they can be looked at for the patch?
[02:37:28] [Fearchiken] never
[02:37:34] [punkz|out] ???
[02:37:40] [punkz|out] are you serious
[02:37:46] [@shutupandshave] that's why I was so angry last night punkz
[02:37:48] [punkz|out] don't you want them to get fixed
[02:38:00] [Fearchiken] nope
[02:38:14] [punkz|out] wow you must really hate losing
[02:38:22] [@shutupandshave] you just want to use them yourself against other people?
[02:38:42] [punkz|out] what's wrong with you fearchiken?
[02:39:07] [Fearchiken] eys of course
[02:39:11] [Fearchiken] yes*
[02:39:13] [punkz|out] youre not going to be able to use these on the ladder
[02:39:17] [punkz|out] what is the point?
[02:39:18] [@shutupandshave] or in the war
[02:39:21] [punkz|out] owning newbies?
[02:39:57] [punkz|out] that's fucking retarded fear
[02:40:03] [punkz|out] not to meantion incredibly gay
[02:40:06] [punkz|out] *mention
[02:40:08] [Forsaken|hmwork] fear I thought you were above that
[02:40:18] [punkz|out] nah sry dude
[02:40:21] [punkz|out] he wants to own you
[02:41:27] [Forsaken|hmwork] well I definitely can't destrush him on jadeth again and get away w/ it :D

[didlix]

as for useing exploits go... in a 1v1 with fowl he did cunningly use refineries as flak's...

[Anonymous]

Ok...on the subject of refineries....they are expensive, Relic programmed them with guns - and part of their job is to shoot down fighters. Did Relic create them with the prurpose of saying "Players may only use 1 refinery per patch and for defensive purposes only"

No. Of course not. You want to go all out refineries? Its a risky ass tactic and never guaranteed to win. Will I build refineries for defense? I sure as hell will if I want because aggressive refineries are not and will never be considered an exploit by Relic or Sierra. Did anyone ever use a processor rush on cata? Was scuttling your proc to destroy 40 fighters an exploit? Sure it was...yet I dont hear anyone crying about that. Was scuttling an IAF to destroy 30 mimics an exploit? Sure it was but it was used frequently.

Suas...I watched silencio use the battleball on me in a 1 v 1 we had on shield. I couldnt care less if he used this as an exploit or not. I rate silencio as one of the greatest players I have ever come up against and if he can manage fighters better than me then good for him. He was disappointed (I think) that i went refineries. I still didnt use the refineries like I should have. They stayed staitonery as a defensive tool only.

I am fed up of hearing "this is an exploit and that is an exploit and everything is a fucking exploit"

[shutupandshave]

angel, it's almost impossible to do accidently...
and I thought sil usually went hig?

[cateye]

I sure as hell will if I want because aggressive refineries are not and will never be considered an exploit by Relic or Sierra.

I am really looking forward to what the patch will bring. Aggressive reffinieries are obviously not an exploit in the sense of tricking the game AI into something which it isnt supposed to do, but that could also be said about platformrushes. Yet platform and reffinery rushes are considered an exploit in ladderplay. It is a proof of lacking skill if some1 uses them. lol

People which resort to the desperate use of exploits (like you) will hopefully be totally fucked when the patch is out.

I am fed up of hearing "this is an exploit and that is an exploit and everything is a fucking exploit"


Theres a simple solution for your problem: Don't use exploits :D

[Anonymous]

Fair enough point, Cat. Did you ever scuttle a processor or IAF in cata? Did you use this to gain an advantage over another opponents fighter or mimic attack? Did you ever "carbomb" with a crystal? I am pretty sure the game designers did not consider that to be a standard attack, moreover, it was an exploit of the games engine. All the above were exploits in cata and I never heard of you complaining about them. Why is this game so different?

Using refineries as a defensive force around your carriers or command ships is not and should not be considered an exploit. I dont see how it possibly compares to sending 15 plats to an opponents worker op or having plats move in formation with a capital ship. If you want to spend ru at the start of the game in building a stationary defensive operation then what is explotiitive about it? Are you telling me that the ladder players decide how we can or cannot play the game? Does building refineries then classify you an an "exploiter" of the game?

What if I had chosen to build 10 gun plats at each of my resource ops instead while the ships were not moving. Is that an exploit?

Furthermore, Cat, I do not rely on the use of exploits to win games. It really does not bother me if members of FC consider the use of refineries to be a cheat or an exploit. I am not fooling the game engine or exploiting it so there is absolutely nothing wrong wth this tactic.

thanks

[cateye]

Well Angel, first of all this isnt cata. It doesnt compare at all. Scuttle damage was build in into all ships, and, the most important point: The cummunity doesnt consider it an exploit. An exploit is an exploit if the cummunity considers it an exploit. Neither proc scuttle nor carbomb or IAF scuttle unbalanced the game. Reffineries as flaks do so for hw2.

The reason Reffineries are considered and exploit is the fact that they kill fighters better than any other ship in the game, they're actually better at doing it than a Flakfrigate - imho that is wrong, and most of the skilled players agree on simply not using it.

There is no problem with using a Reffinery as resource drop-off, its what they are designed to do. But using maxed out reffinieries as a defensive force is at the very least bad style, altho it is arguably a grey area. Using them offensivly is a definitive exploit. (I could write u an unbeatable strat around using defensive reffineries)

Another thing i want to remind you of, is that this game has only been out for 2month now. Don't you realize that what is a minor exploit atm can be reffined into a major exploit during the months that are to come?

Are you telling me that the ladder players decide how we can or cannot play the game? Does building refineries then classify you an an "exploiter" of the game?

No. I am not saying they make the laws. But if the top-ten ladder players consider something to be an exploit, at least that should make us think about it.

Of course neither of us two knows what will be in the patch, but im quite convinced that reffineries will be nerfed to a point that makes exploiting them in that way impossible.

What if I had chosen to build 10 gun plats at each of my resource ops instead while the ships were not moving. Is that an exploit?

This also is on the borderline, but imho this is exploit, because i consider all use of platforms, with the exception of hs plats, an exploit (until the patch is out).

And last, but not least: Honestly i have always known u as a fair and honorable player angel, using such tactics is simply far below your quality, and that alone should be enough to convince you into not using them.

C'mon m8, your good enough to not need such shit.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the compliment, Cat :)

You make a lot of fair and reasonable points there. There is, however, one that makes no sense. How can you say that a carbomb was not an exploit? How can you say that, a carbomb wiping out an entire resource op, was not unbalancing?

There is no Barking Dog employee who would say " We built into the game, the ability for a processor to take 95% of a crystal and then get it to eplode at FULL FORCE and wipe out the majority of a fleet"

Seriously Cat, that was probably one of the biggest exploits EVER and yet was used by ladder and non ladder players alike. This is where things become fuzzy for me. All the homeworld games had exploits. HW had probe bombing, evil scouts, hybrid scouts etc etc etc. HWC had scuttle damage, carbombing etc etc and now HW2 has plat rushing refinery rushing etc etc.

Now, IMHO, I think the reasons people do complain and shout "Cheater" or "thats an exploit" is becasue they dont know how to counter it...YET. It is usually the case that every strat has an equal counter strat.

Lets look at it logically. If I go for 4 refineries and my opponent doesnt, I end up giving him a longer game advantage. Why? Well the 3200 I spent on making them was ru I culd have used for a Research module or adv research module...so i am automatically down. What you lose in not being able to get an early fighter rush, you gain in terms of later game development. How is using a refinery rush then preventing you from winning the game anyway?

Again Cat, look at cata. Was a processor designed to be an offensive unit? Did you ever use, or play someone, who as Beast rushed with noting but processors? Nobody ever called that an exploit....yet the sight of 4 refineries elicits more groans than you should hear.

I guess I would be disappointed if you considered be to be dishonourable or unfair for using refineries. I have always had a good relationship with you and sil and animal etc etc.

I will be surprised that, in 3 months from now, that anyone would ever consider refinery rushing ( and by that i mean building refineries for your own defense) an exploit.

One last thing Cat, not everyone who plays this game is going to be uber profecient at fighter management or tactics. Relic have provided a myriad of ships for people to use. If we all go inties -> Destroyers, the game will get very dull.

Just my thoughts on this :)

[DruidChiken]

I have heard that one of the main additions to the new HW2 patch is the FC Anti-Whinging Control.

If after the 2nd whinge by any one logged on as FC, it causes the players head to disappear up his own ass.

This feature is actually written into the game at the moment but in a limited fashion.

But as you can tell, excessive use of the 'whinge' has already caused certain FC to visually inspect their own rectum.

BawKk!!


Druid

[cateye]

There is a big difference between using an exploit and cheating.

No, again, i dont think carbombing or proc-rushing was an exploit on cata - it was infact one of the few things that made beast stand a change against skilled somtaaw, and u know that i have made my homework when it comes to beast :)

I don't agree on the points you made about Reffineries defensivly used give u an early disadvantage in the game. I don't feel like posting a strat about how to use them in a undefeatable way on public forums, but i will be happy to show you what i mean when we meet next time (without making such a game count for the war, cuz i would feel cheap and lame doing so).

Btw, we two havent played 1v1 in this war yet, and i'd be happy to challenge you.

Oh and druid, have you ever played this game? No? Ok. Please stop prooving the world what a dolt you are, do yourself that favour. pwned

[Fearchiken]

<punkz|out> when you pretend to exploit, it's all anyone things
<punkz|out> thinks
<punkz|out> i don't get fagets
<shutupandshave> that was my point punkz
<Fearchiken> i dun care punkz
<Drunk|PSA> suas game?
<Fearchiken> you guys annoy me to death
<Fearchiken> so i say shit
<punkz|out> i'll just assume it anyway ok?
<Fearchiken> to just get you more wiled up

:P shut up. I was being sarcastic at the time even though i wasnt showing it.


Btw cat you are so onesided:
1st- Every one a used platforms offensively at least once, in cluding me but only once. I have never used an exploit in a real game except one time with platforms.


2nd- You think refineries are an exploit (lol) and proccesor bombs arent. Refineries are just overpowered. Just because you are using a more powerful unit you consider it an exploit? Are you having torubles dealing with it huh because its so powerful? Is that why you consider it an exploit? Do you think laservettes and BCs are an exploit? lol Cateye i know i make an idiot of myself sometimes but you are making a large idiot of yourself, i suggest you be quiet while you are ahead.

3rd- no exploits are really banned, the 2 worse exploits i know of is lasers and platforms in which are still used (well except lasers since they arent well known).

Just because i test them doesn't mean im intetested in using them in game. Only thing i even consider i will use is xenoceptors since they are only micro, not exploit.

[shutupandshave]

well if you weren't showing it, how do you expect anyone to be able tell.

Go and do your hw.

3 days and no games against chikens (although respect to nem who tried to play a DC game with me, but couldn't join)

Of course, this score suits me fine ;)

Fear, shut up. I like you, but you're an idiot, and your mouth constantly gets you into trouble.

[DruidChiken]

Oh and druid, have you ever played this game? No? Ok. Please stop prooving the world what a dolt you are, do yourself that favour. pwnedActually i have played HW2 and I SUX lol.

In my first game of HW2 on line I played a 2 v 2 with Lazy and I mangaged to get all my resourse collectors taken out along with all of my ships with no RUs left to build anymore :P

But my team mate Lazy single handedly defeated both the other guys while i followed him around the galaxy like a lost sheep looking at the pretty explosions. :)

Muhhhhaaaa :elephant: :assshaking:

LOL

BawKK!!


Druid

[shutupandshave]

lol druid, well, gg to lazy, and to you for staying alive.

I do think that Cheats/exploits may be defined differently in the hw community than the mech community though.

The hw community, although is reasonably small (and obsessive), and people know the way the game engine works etc. People can spot exploits, and some exploits are easy to counter for example, so get let through, some are not so easy to counter, so get phased out of the game by the top ladder players, which in turn filters through to the rest of the community. It's self-regulating, and that's one of the things I like about it so much.

[LoogieChiken]

Eeeep Druid and sheep........ this is a public forum... KEEP IT CLEAN!!!!!!!!

[Festus-OMO]

I've been reading this, and keeping to my own counsel, but something mentioned earlier has REALLY got my dander up now!

Go ahead, sling insults, hurl accusations, make cruel insinuations about the other guys momma, BUT DON'T YOU EVER DARE TO IMPUNE THE SANCTITY OF MY BELOVED CRYSTAL/HARVESTER BOMB FROM CATACLYSM!!!!

Its was difficult to accomplish, clumsy, and slow, and it matched my style perfectly!

For those of you who claim that 95% of the crystal could be used up and you got the same explosion, "OF COURSE YOU DID IDJUTS!".

If you had spent the same amount of time I did, clinging to the side of a crystal, scratchin at its surface, admiring my reflection, you would have realized that it had a unique HOLOGRAPHIC crystalline structure.

That is, for does of youse afraid of big words, each tiny little piece of crystal contained the information necessary to release the big boom, OK?

Not only that, I was browsing thru READERS DIGEST just this morning, and they had one of those "Drama in Real Life" articles. It was about a Crystal miner who discovered it wasn't really the crystal that had all the energy in it. The crystal was a CATALYST (go read a dictionary ahm tired of splaining the big words to yawl), and only a tiny amount of it was necessaary for the explosion to occur.

Turned out it interacted with the gaseous byproduct of a tined bean and sardine diet (common fare among harvester crews if I recall) and caused the explosions.

So I humbley request you quit divertin the nature of this highly inflammatory post, leave me with my memories of driving a "crystal bomb" right up someones MS drive and blowing the thing to HELL UP!


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[LoogieChiken]

Yay Festus you old scrote :)

[GuerillaChiken]

BAWK FESTUS!

Brilliant! Absofawking Brilliant!

OWO

Guerilla

[Snake-Chiken]

as for useing exploits go... in a 1v1 with fowl he did cunningly use refineries as flak's...

yes but you also used your hair lise and did you hear us complain :discussion:

just kidding dildo or whatever but you do raise a point. Refinerys maybe we should ban them also?

What do all you guys think?

[cateye]

/me doesnt believe that xenocepters really work :blob:

[cateye]

nah lets not ban them

i wont use them and laugh if some1 does, but i dont mind that fricking much that i will complicate life furthermore

[silencio]

oi oi

I think as far as the whole exploits thing goes, it comes from the fact that hw/hwc were very different games from hw2. We all constantly used things that were clearly exploits, in every single game. We had a great time coming up with weird, wonderful and whacky ways to move our ships, and seeing as how pretty much everyone knew how to use them, they were generally accepted as part of the game.

There were however some exploits that we 'banned', or that at least were considered unsporting and generally weren't seen in any skilled games. For example, in hwc there was lrs (long-range-swarming) and scorching - lrs was debatably a bug, and scorching clearly wasn't as it was in the manual. Neither of these were used in general in the latter days of playing as they were considered to be too effective, too hard to counter and to make the game generally 'dull'. The good thing was, we didn't have to make an official arrangement before each game - we were just aware that generally, powerful though they were, we wouldn't use them.

Hw2 is in many ways a far better game. The developers have gone out of their way to remove a huge amount of the types of bugs we all used so much in hw/hwc. This is why you don't see (for example) any of the formations for fighters - they knew that as soon as they included them, people would work out ways to exploit them to make the ships do things they weren't intended to.

As a result of this, most of the issues we have with the game are balance related. I don't like plat rushing, because if it's accepted then it's the only thing I will do, in every single game - and it's boring enough in 1 game let alone repeated. Refineries are overpowered - at the moment they're more powerful than flak frigates, and they can be built from the start of the game. Flak frigates require a research module, frigate facillity and advanced research module to build.

As far as i'm concerned, any use of refineries by you guys so far is completely fine. We drew up a list of rules at the start, and we never made any mention of refineries. I think the problem comes from the fact that players from the irc/ladder side of life generally don't use them. I've not really seen them used in numbers since the very early days of the game, not because they're not effective but because the people i normally play with don't consider it to be particularly fair.

I'd really rather not see any refinery rushing - if you want to use them 'defensively', then fair enough I guess.

By the way - what the hell is a 'battle ball' in hw2 and when did I use it? Do you mean building 18 fighter squads and docking the damaged ones?

[shutupandshave]

I think the hw2 battle ball is a laser vette exploit. Those that know how to do it, know how to do it, those that dont, it's best they dont.

What concerns me, is that although we've drawn up a list of "rules", at least one chiken has already posted that he will use plats in war games.

It was my understanding that breaking the rules would result in an immediate loss of the game?

[Snake-Chiken]

I think the hw2 battle ball is a laser vette exploit. Those that know how to do it, know how to do it, those that dont, it's best they dont.

What concerns me, is that although we've drawn up a list of "rules", at least one chiken has already posted that he will use plats in war games.

It was my understanding that breaking the rules would result in an immediate loss of the game?


who will use plats? please state who said this and a bit of proof please

[shutupandshave]

Oh by the way, If I feel like it, I'll plat spam you till your FUBAR!
by guerillachiken

First post in the "quality of suas" thread.

I assumed you read the posts in the threads you posted in. My bad.

[Snake-Chiken]

Oh by the way, If I feel like it, I'll plat spam you till your FUBAR!
by guerillachiken

First post in the "quality of suas" thread.

I assumed you read the posts in the threads you posted in. My bad.


I do think you like to take things out of context a lot even though I know guer was messing but no, any sign of a joke statement and what do you do.. the same thing you allways do, try to twist it into somthing its not. Now has gurr plat spammed you in this war? Well yes or no.

[shutupandshave]

You asked for proof of him saying that, not of him plat-spamming.

Please stop talking about twisting things.

You chikens seem to claim you're joking when you were proved wrong a lot.

Well, all the things you disagree with, I was joking about...

so er...
yeah.

Stop getting upset, it was a joke.

"haha"

[Snake-Chiken]

You asked for proof of him saying that, not of him plat-spamming.

Please stop talking about twisting things.

You chikens seem to claim you're joking when you were proved wrong a lot.

Well, all the things you disagree with, I was joking about...

so er...
yeah.

Stop getting upset, it was a joke.

"haha"


I dont think so mate in fact it is you guys who seem to get upset a lot and it shows.

[shutupandshave]

lol

You're cute.

Touch me.

[Fanatic]

Argh,

My threshold of your post count is reached. Please shutup suas!

Fanatic

[Snake-Chiken]

http://members.lycos.co.uk/snake54/fcbadloser.jpg

how you guys can claim that match as a draw is beyond me, I had maxed out my missle corves with lv2 upgrades had 8 assult figs to kill them lances and assults fighters and I had a grave well right in the center. Bast had maxed out fighters and was build lazers, fear had torps and desties and also torps with his own fighters. We had wiped your fighters from the centre and your taken your workers from the center...

Come on guys play fair we clearly won this. Plus i had full upgrades on the assult frigs. Ok maybe you had 5k but i had 3k and you still have to convert that to units! whivh lets face it you had 2 carriers and a ms right beside the battle that i was going for next. By the way bast also had a gravewell on his carrier on the other carrier
alos fear had a dd at one of your carriers

[shutupandshave]

because we had 7 build ships, and a lot docked.

If you were winning so HARD, how is it that we have more build capable ships (probably more RU's).

We went in, and drew back, deliberately.

You guys had more fighters out, of course.

We have 5 carriers, and 3 ms.
you had 3 carriers, and 3 ms.

you wiped out my colls, from the centre, but I still had 14 left. I dont call that much of a difference.

We had been in an almost identical position against the chiken, and have crashed, except we killed one of your build capable ships, and had 3 full swarms... how is it we were happy to replay, and you ask for a report?

Incidently, your "screenshot" fails to show the rest of our RU ops, and the rest of our ships.

I dont think you have a leg to stand on here.

I have a recording of the game, and would be happy to send it to mecha?

[BasT]

Taken from IRC #free-collective:
<BasT> what had ya got?
<shutupandshave> like, 2 pulsars and a few inters
<BasT> lol
<BasT> 18fighters
[list=1] i had 8 lances and 4 ac docked
<meafy|AFK> you can't think of every possibility bast
<Fearchiken> oh wow lol
<BasT> and 2laser
<Fearchiken> animal had nothing docked
<meafy|AFK> just replay the gmae
<Fearchiken> he was ending gunships one by one to kill my dest : )
<Fearchiken> i dont think you guys would have won lol
<BasT> meafy
<BasT> sign on MSN
<Fearchiken> nothing to deal with torp firgates and destroyers
<shutupandshave> so you wont replay

Alot you say? Alot LOL
you lien piece of Turd LOL
and thats Turd with a capital T

Look @ the screenies, just take alook @ see how much of that pic is taken up by green and yellow, now are you saying your 2pulars and few inters will hold all that? Yes i hear you say... ok then

Taken from IRC #free-collective:
<shutupandshave> bast: the fact we has 8 build capable ships and you had 6
<shutupandshave> yes
<BasT> whats the point in building more if ya can mass em?
<shutupandshave> that's what the dock feature is for ;)
<BasT> wow
<BasT> and we would of raped your workers?

Suas had no reply 2 that 1
HE knows hes been owned the screeny shows this
so WTF is his problem

[BasT]

Taken from IRC #free-collective:
<BasT> what had ya got?
<shutupandshave> like, 2 pulsars and a few inters
<BasT> lol
<BasT> 18fighters
[list=1] i had 8 lances and 4 ac docked
<meafy|AFK> you can't think of every possibility bast
<Fearchiken> oh wow lol
<BasT> and 2laser
<Fearchiken> animal had nothing docked
<meafy|AFK> just replay the gmae
<Fearchiken> he was ending gunships one by one to kill my dest : )
<Fearchiken> i dont think you guys would have won lol
<BasT> meafy
<BasT> sign on MSN
<Fearchiken> nothing to deal with torp firgates and destroyers
<shutupandshave> so you wont replay

Alot you say? Alot LOL
you lien piece of Turd LOL
and thats Turd with a capital T
This is the quality of SUAS

Look @ the screenies, just take alook @ see how much of that pic is taken up by green and yellow, now are you saying your 2pulars and few inters will hold all that? Yes i hear you say... ok then

Taken from IRC #free-collective:
<shutupandshave> bast: the fact we has 8 build capable ships and you had 6
<shutupandshave> yes
<BasT> whats the point in building more if ya can mass em?
<shutupandshave> that's what the dock feature is for ;)
<BasT> wow
<BasT> and we would of raped your workers?

Suas had no reply 2 that 1
HE knows hes been owned the screeny shows this
so WTF is his problem

[Snake-Chiken]

http://members.lycos.co.uk/snake54/07-freecollective1.jpg

[BasT]

w00t happened next?
Oh you know it!

[Fanatic]

One post would suffice BasT, lol!

[BasT]

just wanna make sure he doesnt skip it or pass over it :)

[shutupandshave]

The recording has been sent to one of your chikens that can decode it - I will take his decision.

Does that sound fair?

[shutupandshave]

your screenshot sensor range doesn't pick up all our ships bast.

your screenshot sensor range doesn't pick up all our ships bast.

No insults here.

[Snake-Chiken]

your screenshot sensor range doesn't pick up all our ships bast.

your screenshot sensor range doesn't pick up all our ships bast.

No insults here.
it dosnt pick up half ours either with the view he has but its the only screenshot we have.

No matter I`l wait till i see the win for us by you guys.

[shutupandshave]

WTF - your sensors manager doesn't pick up your own ships???

LOL

[BasT]

<shutupandshave> that's what the dock feature is for
idiot LOL

[Fanatic]

LOL @ Snake

[shutupandshave]

Then you can wait.

We will win the war as we have more games.

We are still waiting for reports for some of our other games with you.

You wont report when we are winning and you crash (with the exception of once at the beginning of the war), and we were FAR more obviously winning in that game, than you were in this war.

Tell you what.
I'll give you some options.

1) Report that other game, and we'll report this.
2) Wait for mecha's analysis, and accept his opinion
3) Stop whining and replay.

[Snake-Chiken]

WTF - your sensors manager doesn't pick up your own ships???

LOL

you are stupid mate. You cant see them becuase they are in that battle and it was out of focus. So get of your high horse mate and stop jumping to your own conclusions, just for once as I am getting tired of correcting you in almost every post.

[shutupandshave]

I know how many ships you had

you all had the best part of a full swarm
we all had a few fighters/corvs each (we both had one dessie)

[shutupandshave]

Okay - reporting.

I dont want you guys to have an excuse to dodge games, and I we'll easily make back the three "dodgy reports".

This is the chat beween me and bast .
The way I saw it - it was still even, but hey - you guys may see different.


I dont really want to give you guys an excuse not to play us - you seem to have enough already ;).

Look forward to seeing you in some more games. Try and avoid dropping this time, because we wont be as kind as we were in the past.

Thx.

I'd quite like to post the chat between me and bast here - because I think it proves things were not finished, but I cant find him, so it will stay unposted till then.

[cateye]

lol

the funny thing is, we can afford being gentlemen enough to report it - u guys obviously don't have that option :P, because on another similar issue where u were unquestionably owned in a 3v3 that crashed u didnt report. Oh well, at least have the honour to do those OTHER 3 reports that you guys still owe us from games that didnt crash (viper/gurilla vs 2FC and me vs gladiator) ;)

[BasT]

ok i think its time we get some the rules down for this with a full stop @ the end of it so that there can be no fawk ups like this again,
I should suggest 5 from each side meet and organise something in the way of this cos i feel it will happen again, actully i know it will weather the positions be vice versa or not
We gotta set it in stone, what do you guys think?

[silencio]

I'm not sure I understand you Bast, sorry.

I think we can all pretty much agree that "but I had this..." arguments just don't get anywhere. The way we do it from the ladder is...

If the game crashes and all players agree on the result, then report. If you can't all agree, then replay the game - sadly in hw2 without recordings there's no real way to dispute these things. I realise this solution is far from ideal, and that it relies heavily on the sportsmanship of both sides, but I can't really see a better one.

Anyone got any better ideas?

[Fanatic]

[Overly Simplistic mode]

Don't crash!

[/Overly Simplistic mode]

[NemesisChiken]

Oh well, at least have the honour to do those OTHER 3 reports that you guys still owe us from games that didnt crash (viper/gurilla vs 2FC and me vs gladiator) ;)

I have sent the first one and will add the others as you confirm these wins.

[Von Doom BC]

I see u guys are still losing, all ya have to do is say the magic words and I'll be tere :phear:

[Snake-Chiken]

lol

the funny thing is, we can afford being gentlemen enough to report it - u guys obviously don't have that option :P, because on another similar issue where u were unquestionably owned in a 3v3 that crashed u didnt report. Oh well, at least have the honour to do those OTHER 3 reports that you guys still owe us from games that didnt crash (viper/gurilla vs 2FC and me vs gladiator) ;)

no cat its the fact that if it was us there would be no bitching about it, we would have reported it. Fact of the matter is with you guys its totally different.

[cateye]

no cat its the fact that if it was us there would be no bitching about it, we would have reported it

May i remind you of that other 3v3 that crashed? How come you guys didnt report it then? See, i don't even feel like bitching about it: Personally i agree with sil, crashed game are a rematch, its bugging me though that you are bitching us into reporting crashed games that u seemed to win (which so far we always did because of good sportmansship) while those crashed games which were gonners for you just remain unmentioned.

[GuerillaChiken]

Oh well, at least have the honour to do those OTHER 3 reports that you guys still owe us from games that didnt crash (viper/gurilla vs 2FC and me vs gladiator)

Cateye, I've only played ONE game in this war and it was against you, so I don't know where you get that info about Viper and I vs two FC. Before you go accusing, please get your information straight.

I have never even SEEN viper formerly blueviper TLSC, let alone played a war game with him.

BAWK!

Guerilla

[shutupandshave]

he got that idea from me.
I played with viper with someone...I thought it was you, I guess not.

[GuerillaChiken]

Seems FC can't keep anything straight...

Quote:
Oh by the way, If I feel like it, I'll plat spam you till your FUBAR!

by guerillachiken

First post in the "quality of suas" thread.
Posted by Suas in this thread.

If you would take the time to pull your head out of your momma's ass, you would see that "The Quality of SUAS" thread was posted by Goliath. I never said this. :nono:

That makes TWO blatant inaccuracies posted by FC in about two days.

You people are making me read every damn post here, just to make sure I'm not getting accused or something I never did, because you damn Euro freaks have no sense of proper reference!

Get it fawking right or don't fawking post it!

Guerilla

[cateye]

It was "Suasage/K vs Dragonic/Viper" - my bad, and it has been reported meanwhile. The game between me and gladiator is still missing tho, and i got that info surely straight.

My point was another one tho: If you guys tell me that you would have reported that 3v3 if it were you in our position that simply is a lie (since there has been more than one game so far that crashed while chikens were loosing and NONE of them have been reported). Still we reported ours (and its not the first time we are so fair), as a sign of sportmanship and fairness.

Again: Crashed games should just be a rematch (which chikens refused in that particular case).

[shutupandshave]

lol guerilla, calm down.

You make so many moronic comments, I just assumed it was you - my bad.

You're counting factual innacuracies?

GuerillaChiken is not pedantic, and is a general all round good bloke.

Damn, there's another one for you.

[GuerillaChiken]

:haha2:

I'm not?!?!? I better go and unregister from the local sex offenders list then.


Thanks Shutup!

:fingers:

[Fanatic]

BAWK!


I get sick of you guys refering to that game you thought you where having control over. The fact was that the tables where turning quickly. In 3v3 games, making life difficult in the beginning for one player and successfully killing a CR and denying a resource op means nothing if the real strat of that player (me) was to get early L2 destroyers (which in fact I did) and enaugh backup in RU and frigates from the team is available.

You guys where about to get hit hard by 2 desties and a shitload of frigates followed by decent amound of fighters and all you had against that where the frigates that where part of that early torp rush of suas (on my side).

In fact his CR was already nearly dead and all he could send where torps (costly, and easy DS lunch). At the same time, our player in the back was sending almost equal amounts of torp frigates in as suas did. Realy, you guys where about to get owned seriously and still you live with the illusion that you had the match under control. You failed to finish the work early on and missed to boat to the heavy guns...end of game.

Yet in almost every game you guys refer to this match as if you had already won it. Teamplay is something else then 1vs1 rushing fellas, fail to break the team as a whole and any damage done to a individual player is nullified.

Live on in ya dream if you whish, but shutup about being so cool to admid when you obviously are runned over. Don't blame us for not taking a loss when we are about to strike hard and you guys are still in the rushing phase when the game crashes.

Real man have real ships, which means destroyers at some point in the game. If you do not and not won yet, your toast no matter how it might seem from the rush perspective side. It is silly to think that in that phase a ongoing rush is still the way to victory while the fact that the oponents can produce DS after DS is a testiment that the rush was a total failure!

so, shutup!

[shutupandshave]

Yeah that's kind of how we felt in the game we just had fanatic.

That screenshot didn't show any of the caps we had in the background (because of sensor range).

You have just completely agreed with our reasons for not wanting to report.

How would you feel if we'd ask you to report at that time, told you that you were losers, and even though you had SEVEN build capable ships, and that we wouldn't play you until you report.

BINGO

You have hit the nail on the head.

Can you see, that it's not about who won or lost, it's about being fair, and we are, and the chikens are not.

Guerilla - go and look up "pedantic" in the dictionary, then go and look up "pedophile", then feel stupid, then laugh at yourself, then smile, and have a nice day.

[silencio]

That's cool - if you don't feel you were losing, don't report it. We'll report the 3v3 you feel you won.

Grilla, are you playing late nights these days? I've had a quick look for you on gamespy a few times, but i've not found you. Ever use IRC? How's the little one?

[shutupandshave]

Uh - we have already sil (or started reporting anyway).

We're nice like that. :)

[GuerillaChiken]

:bang:

ooooh, needs to works on mines vocabuliary befours me takings my GRE eh?

Here, and I thought that you really insulted me! Pedantic is a mild insult, and I fell that in the end the statement was surprisingly accurate, now on the issue of this game that you guys are disputing, you are all becoming what appears to be "pedantic."

:lolmen:
:P
\:D/

The only three smilies that I could find that worked for laugh, smile and have a nice day.

Oi Silly. I've been on late late late for us US folk. And mostly on Gamespy. I was on from 0400 to 0600 CST Monday, I didnt see a soul. And I checked IRC to no avail. When I am running IRC I back out of the lobby on Gayspy, so if I do get a game, I can go right to hosting, w/o the worry of HW2 crashing.

Little man is good, save for the fact that his father has a horrid vocabulary. I take care of him during the week so I can usually jump on for a little bit, but getting a game is usually impossible, since diaper duty may come up.

I'll look for ya man.

BAWK!

[Snake-Chiken]

http://members.lycos.co.uk/snake54/suasstupid.jpg

[NemesisChiken]

LMAO @ Snake

It was "Suasage/K vs Dragonic/Viper" - my bad, and it has been reported meanwhile. The game between me and gladiator is still missing tho, and i got that info surely straight.
Cateye, I have PM'ed Gladiator about this and as soon as I here from him I'll take care of this. The only reason I have not just arbitrarily reported it is I am completely unaware that Gladiator is playing HW2. He is a Chiken no doubt, but thought that he played in our MechWarrior wing pretty exclusively. Your positive that it was Gladiator? I'd hate to think that someone is smurfing his name.

[DruidChiken]

Gladiator doesnt even own a copy of HW2.

When he sobers up he needs to post here :P

It looks like there is definately a low-life smurf about. :madman: (or Catseye is just making up an imaginary win)


Druid

[cateye]

Hm....weird one. I definetly played some1 using the nick GladiatorChiken 1v1 on GameSpy the other day. Oh well...guess it was octo smurfing then or something like that :(

I remember that game pretty well, cuz he (or the guy pretending to be him) told me it was his first real 1v1, so asked about 3 times if he was really sure that he wanted to play me (it was him challenging me, not the other way round), he said "fawk it, ill play"....he kept complaining how pointless that 1v1 was during like the whole game ... bah ... i should have figured it was a smurf :(

[NemesisChiken]

:banging: grrrrr ... I hate this friggin smurf crap !

[Snake-Chiken]

maybe the best way is to use icq or msn and then we know its the real person

[cateye]

Ok. I just crawled thru my mIRC logs...and its another inaccuracy on my side: It wasnt Gladiator, it was Goliath. Srry for the trouble i caused lol, you chikens sometimes look all the same to me

Anyways since it was his first 1v1 I do not insist in reporting it, cuz that game felt kinda lame anyways. The only reason that made me insist is that obsession chikens have to make us report crashed games while they dont report crashed games that were obviously lost for CC.


14[0114:4614:4514] 15[14@15cat-i|away15] i hope u dont mind suas, but this may be a once in a liftetime chance to play goliath

[Snake-Chiken]

Ok. I just crawled thru my mIRC logs...and its another inaccuracy on my side: It wasnt Gladiator, it was Goliath. Srry for the trouble i caused lol, you chikens sometimes look all the same to me

Anyways since it was his first 1v1 I do not insist in reporting it, cuz that game felt kinda lame anyways. The only reason that made me insist is that obsession chikens have to make us report crashed games while they dont report crashed games that were obviously lost for CC.


14[0114:4614:4514] 15[14@15cat-i|away15] i hope u dont mind suas, but this may be a once in a liftetime chance to play goliath


FAct my first game with bast in a 2 v2 which crashed you guys made us report it. Can you name any game that has crashed that you guys havent made us report?
Im just curious

[cateye]

Fanatic/Angel/Bast vs Suas/Animal/Cateye

just an example

[AddictChiken]

Maybe we should have a rule (from this point on) like -- Unless a team/player is willing to conceed; all crashed games are void.

I know that a game could be well won and crash before being actually decided, but even with recordings it could be arguable unless one side is truly, truly pooched.

Better a bad rule than an endless series of stupid arguments.

[cateye]

Funny that you come up with that idea (which we were proposing the whole time) AFTER we reported it.

http://straylight.merseine.nu/chikminister.jpg

[AddictChiken]

Don't yell at me for agreeing with you.... you'll end up sounding like a Democrat. :P

[Snake-Chiken]

Funny that you come up with that idea (which we were proposing the whole time) AFTER we reported it.

http://straylight.merseine.nu/chikminister.jpg

aww poor fc cant come up with there own ideas and have to copy the chiks :elephant:

http://members.lycos.co.uk/snake54/07-freecollectivecopy.jpg

[BasT]

how sad, how very sad....
Cat i thought you were capable of more then that,
how really sad

[Snake-Chiken]

Fanatic/Angel/Bast vs Suas/Animal/Cateye

just an example

I think that is reported mate.

[cateye]

Nope that isnt reported snake....guess inaccuracy happens on both sides...

Sad indeed that chiken have no other option left than transforming this into a forumswar in order to hide the ownage they suffer :P

[Snake-Chiken]

Nope that isnt reported snake....guess inaccuracy happens on both sides...

Sad indeed that chiken have no other option left than transforming this into a forumswar in order to hide the ownage they suffer :P
its not a forums war, infact I never even visit your forums since bib is gone:-( and fc seem totally different but sure I bet it will work out for the best regardless.

[shutupandshave]

It's working out very well.

Btw, we never MADE you report that game at the beginning of the war - you offered.

It was very gracious, and I was most impressed with chiken for doing so. I kind of wish you hadn't though, as you seem to be throwing it back at us.

[NemesisChiken]

Nope that isnt reported snake....guess inaccuracy happens on both sides...
Unless there is another 3v3 that I am unaware of, that game (Game #31, points 42-44) was reported on 12/7 between 6:22 and 6:29 PM.

Am I missing something here?

[cateye]

You missed that the reports you are referring to are wins for team chiken nem (lol), from the game that crashed but still got reported by FC (another example of FC reporting a crashed game).

The game i was referring to was played right before that one, on the same day and crashed too, but FC was winning. (It is the game where Bast told me to STFU because i noticed that it crashed at a very odd moment) :)

Those precise two games are an example of what i talk about: We reported ours even when it crashed, while team chiken is lacking the same kind of behaviour.

[NemesisChiken]

Right, I remember the game you are referring to now. I thought only the first game crashed ... I'll crawl back into my hole and be quiet now ;)

[Snake-Chiken]

It's working out very well.

Btw, we never MADE you report that game at the beginning of the war - you offered.

It was very gracious, and I was most impressed with chiken for doing so. I kind of wish you hadn't though, as you seem to be throwing it back at us.


actually you did but no matter its reported anyhow.

[Pherdnut]

So.. assuming I'm a chiken soon, do I have to wait before I can start helping to kick the tar out of these people?

[Snake-Chiken]

So.. assuming I'm a chiken soon, do I have to wait before I can start helping to kick the tar out of these people?

just grab your nearest baseball bat and start swinging....as for the hw2 war theres 12 players from each side and youl have to talk to neme to get on.

[Fearchiken]

lol

[Animal|BiB]

did we win yet?

[Pherdnut]

Better pray the war has an expiration date before the 30th :)

[shutupandshave]

read the threads, and you can see when the war ends

42-29 to FC at the moment I think

[Pherdnut]

Can't seem to find any threads with more than smack talk in 'em. Could some direct me to the rules of engagement? 13 game lead? Bah! I can play 13 3v3s in a row with coffee... uh.. and maybe heroine.

[bonnet|chiken]

Phed, who need heroin, some good pics of huntres wil keep you awake on top and down below all day.

[Pherdnut]

Not that she's not cool or that they wouldn't be worth an oggle, but that's the last thing I need ;)

[shutupandshave]

expecially after jacking up

[Pherdnut]

Nah.. who needs heroine when you have cigarettes. Way more addictive.

[shutupandshave]

I take it by that statement, you either listen to too many anti-cig dolts, and/or have never tried either?

Your body can be physically addicted to smack after just 1 time - although you wont be psychologically addicted, you'll go through minor cold turkey.

Of course, if you're a heroin expert, I apologise, and feel free to put me right.

[Fanatic]

You r still here?

[shutupandshave]

Yes I'm still here. Sadly, it was my xmas wish that chikens would stop making such stupid comments, but you've ruined that dream.

[Fanatic]

Glad i could help!

[Pherdnut]

I've had enough friends addicted to both. Concensus seems to be that the cigs are more of a bitch to quit, but then, after one addiction I guess cigs are sort of the unanimous fillin. At least among those still living. Had the impression from the earlier posts you lot were being good-natured about this war thing and poking fun for fun's sake.. not being pricks for pricks' sake. What happened?

[shutupandshave]

this is a serious war.
If you win, the chikens (and so I guess that involves you now?) have to give us 10 dollars, and their first born.

Stop taking stuff so seriously. The comment was aimed at fan, and he took it in the spirit it was intended.

Cry me a river.

[Pherdnut]

Alright then. Less chump talk, more :clubbed: :firing: :gunfirej: :sniper: and then :smackbottom: and then :potty: